From freeCodeCamp to NASA with Data Engineer Joe Hill [Podcast #178]
498On this week's episode of the podcast, freeCodeCamp founder Quincy Larson interviews Joe Hill. He's a software engineer who works on a data platform for NASA.
Joe taught himself programming for 4 years while working as a janitor. As the single father of two Autistic boys, he first used his programming skills to build an iPad app to help them learn how to talk.
We talk about:
Data Engineering and wrangling Department of Defense data into a central platform
The role of soft skills in getting things done in big organizations
The need for patience and practice in self-teaching
How to stop jumping from one tool to another and to instead go deep
Tips for parents raising kids with Autism
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Links we talk about during our conversation:
The trailer of the 1992 classic hacking heist movie Sneakers: • Sneakers (1992) Theatrical Trailer [4K] [F...
Joe on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-hill-4a138123/
Contents
00:00 - Intro: Quincy Larson introduces Joe Hill
00:57 - The Tools of a Data Engineer
02:04 - What is PySpark?
02:44 - What are data frames?
04:04 - SQL, Schema, and Data Analysis
05:08 - The importance of asking questions
08:00 - Working with the US federal government
09:40 - Cybersecurity and password managers
11:54 - From janitor to data engineer
14:07 - Joe’s time in the US Army
16:07 - Living with a knee injury
17:01 - Weight training and getting older
19:05 - Raising two sons with autism
20:10 - How Joe got interested in computers
22:15 - Building an iPad app to help his son learn to speak
26:48 - Becoming a janitor while learning to code
28:50 - How Joe’s two sons are doing today
32:34 - Why it’s so important to learn a trade
37:01 - Getting your first developer job may not be at a big tech company
38:27 - How to contribute to open source when you’re a beginner
41:34 - How solving your own problems can be a great way to learn
44:19 - Explaining your work to non-coders
48:26 - How to get buy-in from stakeholders
49:24 - Be more than just a ticket completer
51:12 - Geeking out over the problem, not the tools
52:50 - Working as a government contractor
54:49 - Semper Gumby: always be flexible
57:26 - Using being self-taught to your advantage
58:45 - Will AI take our jobs?
01:02:18 - Learning is the real skill
01:04:47 - How to approach technical interviews as a self-taught developer
01:06:24 - Building community and helping others learn
01:10:10 - What if you fall off the wagon and stop coding for a while?
01:12:30 - A lesson about ego from the TV show Scrubs
01:16:19 - Helping others learn software development
01:20:02 - You can still get a developer job if it takes you years to learn
01:26:24 - What advice would you send back to your younger self?
01:30:11 - Outro