Deep Dive w/Scott: RP2040 DMA and Audio #raspberrypipico #rp2040 #adafruit @tannewt

Deep Dive w/Scott: RP2040 DMA and Audio #raspberrypipico #rp2040 #adafruit @tannewt

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0:00 Getting started and hellos
07:26 Housekeeping
12:22 Any plans for a ESP32 wired Ethernet feather wing?
13:45 Does the Wiznet library support TLS?
15:05 State of CircuitPython RP2040
20:07 How'd you come to choose Arch?
21:25 how to smooth library porting to and from micropython?
22:49 A quick question how feasible is to replace/upgrade to flash chip on pico?
23:56 Have you ever talked about OTA (over the air updates) on a circuit python based deployment?
24:53 What makes the pico better then other boards?
25:31 RP2040 as a dev board - issues
27:25 Will PWM capture be supported? That would be interesting for reading ultrasonic sensors
28:40 Is circuit python going to support the dual core s of the pico?
29:47 will there be a Starting with Circuit Python on the PICO book?
32:25 could you tell us something about Circuitpython vs Micropython?
36:05 What is your guess how far the PIO's can be pushed quadrature encoder wise for CP ? (for closed loop motor control)
37:43 arduino on the pico when?
38:34 do you see the rp2040/pico and circuit python overtaking arduino due to python being so much easier to code for beginners or otherwise?
41:11 I often get old print statements (from infinite loops) still printing in the mu serial output after saving and my code restarting. Is that due to a big buffer somewhere still pushing out text somewhere?
43:16 Is CP doing QUAD SPI or QPI to flash ? (or just SPI)
46:24 did you implement peek and poke from c64?
46:54 Can CircuitPython take advantage of Sparkfun's proposed larger flash part ?
47:43 will Firmata work on this board?
48:34 Heh, just a follow up on the OTA question... what I meant was the support for changing the files (like code.py) on the mass storage and not circuit python itself. Would that still be considered OTA?
50:15 how would you control a low power state entry without WFE or WFI?
53:04 From dcd: given earlier interest in FPGAs and comparing it to the focused power of the rp2040's PIO - have you followed the Glasgow Interface Explorer ? Is it the next step? Has anyone 'backed' it yet? - just 4 days left on crowd supply https://www.crowdsupply.com/1bitsquared/glasgow )
56:52 Does CP have ability to toy with clock to get current lower on the new speed? How is current compared to Portenta ?
59:28 Any part of the RP2040 port that would be useful for me to poke at working on that needs to be done still? Now that I have a couple picos finally.
1:02:49 Will UART work over old skool pins (instead of or in addition to) through USB ?
1:04:25 what does audio mean on the RP2040
1:05:44 I2S out ( see wikipedia and readthedocs )
1:07:04 PDM in (pulse modulation)
1:07:56 Using Audacity to understand digital audio
1:09:39 ( CP / wiznet / ethernet )
1:11:08 using the REPL to explore the audio frequency rates …
1:12:20 I2S out / CD standard rates
1:13:09 Audio Core / RawSamples
1:13:43 Audioio ( audio output )
1:15:00 Audiomixer / MixerVoice
1:16:05 audiomp3 - support for MP3-compressed audio files
1:16:46 audiopwmio - Audio output via digital PWM ( want to do for the RP2040 )
1:18:07 Can you take advantage of the parallel read/write across memory banks to improve throughput on the Pico? ( audio is not that fast… )
1:19:39 - “working code”
1:20:00 audio pwm out discussion / resolution
1:25:36 DMA feature - PIO pacing timers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVLRUyPBBJk
1:28:30 Clock division on RP2040 divisor_finder.py (sp?)
Tannewt rp2040_audiopwmio branch
1:34:10 Pacing timer story ( 4 timers in hardware )
1:37:40 8-bits and 4-bits divisor
1:39:22 RP2040 requires external crystal - for more accurate frequencies…
1:40:18 Plan for I2S
1:41:45 Pico example and pico extras
1:43:20 PIO assembly code for IO - ping pong buffers
1:47:30 DMA buffer size/alignment limitations / channel chaining
1:50:02 Deep dive into the DMA Registers ( around page 99 in the data sheet)
1:55:40 pause and resume
2:01:15 Completely unrelated question. Is there a way to use the USB connection as a USB/CDC serial device with micropython I would assume since the REPL is over the USB this wouldn't work
2:04:08 What are the downsides of the rp2040? Compared to samd51 etc.
2:08:55 Can you be a web server in CP ?
2:09:46 could you inject ramp PIO instructions for the transitions?
2:10:33 GPIO 15 story
2:14:56 What is best target for CP to do ethernet ?
2:16:03 Wrap-up

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