DHH: Future of Programming, AI, Ruby on Rails, Productivity & Parenting | Lex Fridman Podcast #474
11,999David Heinemeier Hansson (aka DHH) is a legendary programmer, creator of Ruby on Rails, co-owner & CTO of 37signals that created Basecamp, HEY, & ONCE, and is a NYT-best-selling author (with Jason Fried) of 4 books: REWORK, REMOTE, Getting Real, and It Doesn't Have To Be Crazy At Work. He is also a race car driver, including a class-winning performance at the 24 hour Le Mans race.
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OUTLINE:
0:00 - Episode highlight
1:21 - Introduction
2:32 - Programming - early days
19:57 - JavaScript
30:16 - Google Chrome and DOJ
38:03 - Ruby programming language
45:14 - Beautiful code
1:03:15 - Metaprogramming
1:06:36 - Dynamic typing
1:13:55 - Scaling
1:26:47 - Future of programming
1:44:18 - Future of AI
1:50:13 - Vibe coding
1:58:45 - Rails manifesto: Principles of a great programming language
2:23:11 - Why managers are useless
2:32:32 - Small teams
2:38:39 - Jeff Bezos
2:53:57 - Why meetings are toxic
3:01:43 - Case against retirement
3:09:00 - Hard work
3:14:38 - Why we left the cloud
3:17:48 - AWS
3:27:07 - Owning your own servers
3:33:19 - Elon Musk
3:43:01 - Apple
3:54:48 - Tim Sweeney
4:06:22 - Fatherhood
4:32:04 - Racing
4:59:08 - Cars
5:04:26 - Programming setup
5:19:35 - Programming language for beginners
5:32:53 - Open source
5:41:46 - WordPress drama
5:53:03 - Money and happiness
6:01:56 - Hope
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