Gödel, Escher, Bach author Doug Hofstadter on the state of AI today

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*Douglas Hofstadter*, the Pulitzer Prize–winning author of Gödel, Escher, Bach, reflects on how he got interested in the mind and consciousness, how he came to write Gödel, Escher, Bach, and why he is terrified by the current state of AI.

*CHAPTERS*
0:00 Introduction
1:30 How did you first get interested in AI?
5:01 Tell us more about recursion & self-reflection
10:03 How did GEB come to life?
21:21 Which ideas from GEB are most relevant today?
29:23 What about AI terrifies you?
34:35 How have LLMs impacted your view of how human creativity works?
37:14 Is there something analogous in history that terrified people?
38:20 What brings you joy these days?

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