Password Summoning Needs a Big Change | Elden Ring

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Published on September 14, 2023 5:00:19 PM ● Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX5W2C5DSNk

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Co-op with a friend is great and so it is understandable why FROMSOFTWARE introduced password summoning, replacing the ring system from DS2, even if it goes against the design of fleeting randomized help that Miyazaki originally intended. With Bloodborne they left in the level matchmaking even if you had a password and casual players couldn't tell if the system was working at all when they couldn't find a friend outside their level range because there was no indicator of the matchmaking restriction. In DS3 that was entirely lifted and Fromsoftware instead applied downscaling to summons that are outside the host's level range.

At a glance there isn't much of an issue but it's clearly a very broken system, more so if you're in a certain sweet spot outside the host's range or if you're near max level. In the best case scenario the formula will adjust the summon's; hp, fp, stamina, and damage to be similar to the host's but they'll generally always have more in every category regardless of what it does, especially in FP. Then there's the stuff downscaling doesn't effect at all; grade tier scaling with upgraded equipment, build up value of equipment that does status effects, equipment burden, passive defense stats, and meeting high minimum stat requirements at lower levels.

With how OP password scaling can be it's no wonder why many hosts aren't actively doing anything beyond staying out of the way and surviving. If seamless co-op were to become a thing in a future title without a change to downscaling it will hopefully have many other features that create a focus on teamwork based co-op.

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Strength: 11, Dexterity: 13,
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Banished Knight's Halberd +2 (Piercing Fang, Cold)
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