Seiken Densetsu 3 Archdemon w/o items & w/o 2nd class change: Lise, Angela, Carlie

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Lise. Valkyrie
Angela: Sorceress
Carlie: Enchantress

No items mean no items. You are allowed pick up only 4 items entire game
-Gunpower
-Chibbokko hammer
-Pihyara flute
-Flammie drum.
-Illusion Mirror (If you play Kevin/Carlie quest)

That was probably weakest possible team beat game w/o items. Carlie is mandatory here. Its only who will learn heal light spell after 1st boss. You will really need it here. Angela was just more just challenge. its incredible weak and those magic run outs quickly. Lise is one best. its has stat up skills.

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3:13 Boss Fight starts
14:15 2nd form starts
21:00 Boss take power/protect ups and goes really hard.
31:13 Boss will die.

That was some heavy level up grinding. Its like a lot my whole game no item playthrough Kevin quest which actually contains 2nd class change & 3 class change items.
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Im not going recorded whole game with this time. That is most level up grinding. With weak team like this will requires early gun power route and heavy level grinding. Level 51 will avoid all death spells. There is no matter level ups otheriwse (because your stat goes fully some 40 levels range). But no items challenge you not have angels grails and death cancel trick not work without items. So only way avoid death spells is level up or pure luck.

Game itselfs start goes really hard in middle of the Dark castle, but Angela light magic & Lise mind ups spells work really well against those enemies here.

Arch demon was still hardest thing entire game IMO. Thats really tight magic limit. Lise stat ups nearly run out and Carlie Heal light spell too. Some 28 MP remain Carlie and 12 MP remain Lise.

First tips beat Arch Demon:
Its important know how game goes work.
-Without power ups spells Angela & Carlie could make only 1 point damage. So cast power up soon when you even try make attacks.
-You have stat up all once first. When boss lower your status you have to stat up again. Otherwise if boss lower your stats, you have to cast all stat up twice in row, so chain cast technique was really useful here. You actually never need protect up in first form, but air slasher will lower your stats and then you have cast all bullet ups twice in row when 2nd form start. Otherwise those earth sprit swords/dark balls will make you instant death or very close it.

-Demon breath & Gigaburn are most annoying things. All magich stat will lower and boss like mostly use magic attacks. Those effect are permanent, but boss only could drop your stat once. But if you got hit airslacher once in first form, you have to cast protect up twice. That hard to keep counting all those stat effects and fix those alls. I sure did some errors here, but also have count Lise MP.

-Never use BA attacks against Archdemon. Boss will counter attack those using Black curse which lower all your stats. Its nearly game over in no item challenge game and BA 2 moves not are even strongs.. If you used magic attack boss will counter those summon Great Demons, its not bad like black curse, its also make some serious damage, but that was only way caused some serious damage with Angela when boss protect up himself.

-Boss started goes really hard when its got protect up and power up with himself. At this point only Lise can make some serious damage using charged spears hit. At this point i start spam Angela Magic (Undine seems best IMO) Also those sword attacks and dark ball will caused some 500+ damage even you are fully protect upped, but its sometimes not will hit. That only reason use some speed ups spells.(you will got better success rate avoid got damage with this when you evade rate goes up, otherwise speed ups not are that useful) Its nearly kill you instant hit if you got hit with this when boss are fully power upped.

Demon scream will lower you power. That not really matter much when Angela & Carlie goes totally powerless at end. But Its important cast Power up with Lise if you got hit Demon scream.

How ever if you want go easier No/item route. Lise/Hawk (ninja) Carlie will work a lot better, because Ninja could lower boss stats and had more power than Angela.

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