DFFOO [JP][King Heretic Raid][Request] Y'shtola, Zell, Vayne and 3 turn of Sephiroth friend w/Ifrit

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I don't always take request but since Vayne is dropping in global soon and JP is ending its LD era, it is a good throwback to use some of the BT+ characters that I used the most.

My most used BT+ characters are Y'shtola, Ace, Vayne and Caius.
Caius already appeared in this one before. So just a last one for Vayne.

I have mentioned before that Vayne / Y'shtola are actually really good for this orb because of EX skill recovery. Alternating their EX uses while having 2 hoggers would make it smoother, the same goes with Shelke's event back when Vayne's block was active. In fact this is the same team that I used back then, except it was with Exdeath friend.

Reminder on Vayne:
Vayne is one of the few BT users that is a DPS with actual party support outside of his BT, and a variety of them.
As of now he is still Lv80 so naturally he is short of quite a bit of innate BRV/HP dmg parameters. In addition to that, his BT follow-up potency is not high, but it is intended to gathering BRV from 2 or more targets since it is an AoE BRV + ST HP dump x2.
That though does not stop him from being relevant even at the end of Lufenia+. There are quite a few things you can extract the most use out of him, or you can just change your mindset and play him differently.

1a. Give him the BRV dmg/DEF down support he needs
1b. Alternatively, give him BRV gain up and battery. Battery before his attacks and let him BRV refund before turn hogging
2. Pair him up with turn hoggers with rebreaks for his off-turn BT follow-up
3. Make the boss breakable every (other turn)
e.g. 0 iBRV cheese, or just Sephiroth BT lol
4. Use him as an orb uptick device
His BT follow-up is an AoE. One, you can get additional upticks with off-turn dmg. Two, there are numerous orbs that require BRV hits to activate, and since his BT follow-up is AoE, you can use him that way.
5. Break delay turn control
e.g. The notorious Divine Shiva who lock their turns but is not immune to break delays. Vayne is very good there to uptick the orb and control them.
6. Let him be an aurabot and off-turn dmg dealer instead

Vayne + Y'shtola:
Y'shtola is just very good with Vayne because of BRV gain, BRV/HP dmg support, battery and rebreaks with LD. Now that C90 Y'shtola has a lot more stalling potential, though not showing in this one, you can just fish for even more natural breaks. Also almost every move Y'shtola does now battery the others, so it is a good way to battery Vayne's moves.

The only problem Vayne has with Y'shtola currently is occasionally when he drops below iBRV (e.g. after launch dumps), he would not benefit from Y'shtola's BT effect which has an iBRV condition for activation. So from time to time you would see a fluctuation in his BRV dmg and refund, thus affecting the output.

Modern day solutions and strategies.
Any strong buff that you can leave on Vayne before you turn hog:
This goes for any off-turn dmg dealer really, even like Cor on Global. For example, Ashe HP+ buff, Aphmau LD buff, Rem's off-turn buff. His follow-up gets all the benefits without taking a turn.
In this case, since Vayne is a Lv80 character, as opposed to Bahamut's blessing leaving Ifrit's buff on him and taking advantage of all the turn hogging and BT phases with his BT follow-up makes much more sense.

Sephiroth BT+:
Curiously Sephiroth BT+ actually has additional 50% BRV gain now to cover for when Y'shtola's BT s not active. He also just makes everything breakable in his presence so anyone else, not just rebreakers can take advantage of this.

The 2 above measures are quite apparent from the period when the summon phase and Y'shtola BT phase took place.

Snow / Prishe / Yuna / Ciaran BT+, or Cait Sith / Sazh / Rosa / Ursula LDCA
Locking his BRV, having more dmg refunds or offering him more sources of BRV gathering are honestly certain ways that you can use Lv.80 characters more easily than purely pumping BRV dmg up onto them.

Last Thoughts:
Not a braindead character:
There are actually a lot of moments where you can't play Vayne in a braindead manner in Lufenia+. On his own event, the boss turn warp every 12 turns or so. That does not stop you from effectively using him though. I even use a CoD friend with him and Y'shtola. All 3 of them rebreaks the boss and push them away, but you can get by by breaking them "wrongly" instead.
In this event, the orb starts at 10 and you need to deplete skill uses before recovering them. I changed the skill order and didn't start with S1 this time, but S2 to deplete its use before entering turn hogging with free skills. I used him for the next orb uptick instead.
He is quite easy to control and more predictable than Lightning, given they have similar capabilities of rebreaks, turn hogging and delay potentials.

You either support him to let him do all the dmg, or let him be a support DPS when you use another one to trigger his off-turn follow-up. The later the era, the better you lean towards the latter.




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