FFXIV Tier Lists - Why they're AMAZING but MISUSED

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Published on January 31, 2022 9:15:14 PM ● Video Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-J_rihmA3c

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Final Fantasy XIV (2010)

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Tier lists have landed in FFXIV and I've oddly enough spent the weekend thinking about them at length. Tier lists aren't bad, in fact they are VERY POWERFUL TOOLS -- but how they are being used at times is HORRENDOUS.

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Timestamps:
0:00 Tier lists are both great and awful at the same time
0:23 Playing Warframe Again
0:42 Warframe has A LOT A LOT of tier lists lol
1:24 Real World Example
2:11 I can be silly about it
2:50 Reality is more convoluted
3:41 My recommendation!
3:59 HOW THIS RELATES TO FFXIV TIER LISTS
5:07 What do YOU enjoy?
5:48 Use cases are critical
7:38 Context in FFXIV
8:00 EXAMPLE 1 - 99th percentile parsing black mage
8:55 Example 1 PROBLEM LOL
10:10 EXAMPLE 2 - Party finder queens
12:01 EXAMPLE 3 - Dark Knight is apparently bad lol
13:48 Wrapup

This video might get spicy. The fundamental idea behind tier lists isn’t a bad one, in fact it’s a very popular idea with good intention-- why would I want to invest my resources, time being the biggest one, into something that is not going to perform as well as something else?

I brewed a lot on this video’s topic as I dipped my toes into warframe again. Which made me think a lot about final fantasy 14 funnily enough and our tier lists. Warframe is, honestly, packed with tier lists and sometimes they make sense and other times not so much.



[Cause I took this weekend completely off of final fantasy 14 and kept off social media cause things got way too intense and I wasn’t having fun]


Like why it makes sense is that Warframe is also a game with a literal combinatorial explosion of builds, combos, mods, helminth system abilities and other factors that make combing over large swaths of data general statements can be useful to help drill your attention down to assess a few high value choices.

But making a general statement like X is factually better than Y is oversimplifying it to the point it’s untrue.



Let me explain, to do so bear with me for a moment because I’m going to give a real world example I encounter a lot and then tie it right back to tier lists and final fantasy 14.

I’m often asked by friends, colleagues and acquaintances looking at the field as a senior software developer, I even taught full stack software development the glowing question:

What programming language would you recommend me to learn or use in general, not even a particular use case but in general. Which is often loaded as “What language will get me the best job?”
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Which while that is an innocent question it is a lot more involved than meets the eye. But am I going to blame someone for asking that? No, because that’s a pretty important question with a significant time investment to become even parsing basic string input.]

So I could give a cute knee-jerk reaction lathered in my own biases and laugh at the idea of building a new website around a fossil like PHP versus my genuine recommendations of something more modern like python or node with typescript or the dotnet framework which microsoft really really stepped up their game.

But even there I rattled off 3 big examples of things I’ve had great experiences with that I could recommend whole heartedly.

(I wouldn’t have said that 5 years ago about dotnet and microsoft and here I am using it professionally in a brand new job architecting out the solution. Also Node with typescript and python are beautiful and I’ve enjoyed using both immensely too. I could sit down for hours talking about pros and cons of them and why I pick what I do and for what.)

But dumping on php, that’s cute, that’s clickbaity that’s fun. But the real answer is that it depends on the market you’re in, what your career goals are and ultimately what you enjoy more. The actual answer is a bit more convoluted and individualistic.


Hold that thought! Let me make that concrete in terms of final fantasy 14 and gaming in general, the real answer to your tier list you want in final fantasy 14 depends on what sort of GROUP you’re in or group you’re looking for to say progress through dragonsong war ultimate-- aka the market you’re in, what your particular goals are such as do you want to heal it or tank it, and what you enjoy more which breaks down into a plethora of categories.

Such as do you enjoy a faster rotation or slower one? Do you appreciate mobility abilities or not? Do you prefer being rooted down with casts more like a black mage or be very mobile like summoner. Do you want to give away some of your own personal DPS to buff allies or keep all of that DPS to yourself?

Do you value helping the healers of the party out with abilities like summoner’s phoenix heal over time or dancer’s curing waltz

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